the economy boomed. that's your model. >> but it's the sequester, which means you that can't cut spending smartly. it's just across-the-board random cuts. i'm for cuts. i'm one that will agree that we do have to cut spending. but we've got to do it in a balanced way. we've got to cut spending. i don't think anyone will argue that. we cut spending before in the budget control act. we cut some spending. but we do believe it's got to be done in a balanced way, that we cut spending because the ultimate goal is to have a balanced budget. cut spending and find more revenue, collect it together. >> i knew the r word was coming. >> absolutely. >> i knew the r word was coming. it was coming up here. bob costa, let me just ask you. i'm looking at the late posting on the "new york times" website. democrats press gop to start talks to avert budget crisis. this is with six days to go. but in the democratic plan is the r word, revenues. haven't we dismissed that? is there anything in this report at all? >> i think the